In his first comments since news of a possible deal between the Vatican and Beijing broke, an underground bishop at the center of this row gave us his comments in this New York Times article.
I owe much thanks to Adam Wu (吴同), a NYT researcher who went with me on the trip and whose tireless energy and nose for the news made this interview possible. In a fairer world, he would have had the lead byline but this isn’t possible with the regulations we must follow in China.